The Pragmatic Engineer
16:04DHH on Escaping the "Apple Bubble": Why You're Allowed More Than One Computer
In this conversation, David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH) argues that many developers, himself included for years, have been living inside an "Apple bubble." They assume one machine is enough, that Apple w
1:47:21DHH on Going Agent-First: Taste, Tiny Teams, and the End of the Programmer as Bottleneck
Six months before this conversation, David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-founder and CTO of 37signals, was on Lex Fridman's podcast criticizing AI coding tools. Over the wi
32:29Martin Fowler and Kent Beck on AI: What Carries Over from Agile, and What They Have to Give Up
At the Pragmatic Summit, a conference otherwise full of AI startups, the host brought Martin Fowler and Kent Beck on stage. Both were among the 17 signatories of the Agile Manifesto 25 years ago. The
1:39:34Thuan Pham on Scaling Uber: Surviving Hypergrowth, Rewriting Under Pressure, and What Still Makes Engineers Great
Thuan Pham joined Uber as its first CTO in April 2013. The company then had about 40 engineers and roughly 30,000 rides a day, and its systems crashed several times a week. Pham stayed seven years. In
20:42Chip Huyen on Why to Keep Building When AI Can Copy Anything
Chip Huyen, author of AI Engineering, opened her talk at The Pragmatic Summit with a question she said she fluctuates on herself: if AI can replicate whatever you build, why build at all? Her answer d
32:29Nicole Forsgren on why AI speeds up coding but not shipping
At The Pragmatic Summit, Nicole Forsgren, co-author of Accelerate and author of the new book Frictionless, discussed a tension that runs through the book: AI helps developers write software faster tha
34:47Product-Minded Engineers in an AI-Native World: Taste, Quality Rituals, and Shorter Feedback Loops
This panel at The Pragmatic Summit asked what separates a product engineer from other engineers, whether that instinct can be taught, and how AI tools are changing the work. The moderator leads produc
28:16Simon Willison on the Engineering Practices That Make Coding Agents Trustworthy
At The Pragmatic Summit in February 2026, Simon Willison spoke with Eric, who leads infrastructure and security at Static, about how coding agents fit into day-to-day development. Willison co-created
1:11:25Building WhatsApp with 30 Engineers: Jean Lee on Saying No, Skipping Process, and Life After the $19B Acquisition
Jean Lee joined WhatsApp in 2012 as engineer number 19, when the app was barely known in the United States. She stayed through its growth to 450 million monthly users, its $19 billion acquisition by F
1:32:01Steve Yegge on AI Agents, Gas Town, and Why Coding by Hand Is Ending
Steve Yegge has been writing software for about 40 years, including long stints at Amazon and Google, and is known for blunt, often funny blog rants about the industry. In this conversation with Gerge
37:35How Uber Is Leading Its Engineering Organization Through an Agentic Shift
At The Pragmatic Summit, Anshu Chada, who leads Uber's developer platform organization, and Ty Smith, a principal engineer who has been one of the leading voices on Uber's AI strategy, described how U
36:40How Ramp Moved From Many AI Agents to One Agent With Many Skills
At The Pragmatic Summit, four Ramp engineering leaders described what the company learned building AI products for finance teams: Nik Koblov (EVP Engineering), Veeral Patel (Director, Applied AI and S
34:14Malte Ubl on Rebuilding Vercel's Agents and Running a Company While the Ground Shifts
At The Pragmatic Summit, Vercel CTO Malte Ubl talked about what it means to build products while the models underneath them keep changing. The interviewer framed the moment as different from earlier w
1:38:00How Boris Cherny Builds Claude Code: Parallel Agents, No Handwritten Code, and the Printing Press Analogy
Boris Cherny created Claude Code and leads it at Anthropic. In this conversation on The Pragmatic Engineer, he describes how the tool went from a personal experiment with the Anthropic API to somethin
9:41From an Unanswered Email to a Summit: How The Pragmatic Engineer Came to Be
The Pragmatic Summit opened in San Francisco on 11 February 2026 with a welcome address from its host, Gergely Orosz, author of The Pragmatic Engineer. He didn't preview the day's talks. He told the s
1:58:25Mitchell Hashimoto on HashiCorp, the Cloud Giants, and Always Keeping an Agent Running
Mitchell Hashimoto co-founded HashiCorp, whose tools (Vagrant, Packer, Consul, Terraform, Vault, Nomad) became standard parts of cloud infrastructure. He now works on the terminal emulator Ghostty. In
33:33Building AI-Native Engineering Teams: Thomas Dohmke and Rajeev Rajan on Agents, Roles, and What Changes Next
At The Pragmatic Summit, host Gergely Orosz asked two leaders what it means to build an engineering team "in the age of AI." Rajeev Rajan is CTO of Atlassian, a large company with legacy systems and t
29:46Data vs. Hype: What the Numbers Say About How Organizations Actually Win with AI
In this keynote at The Pragmatic Summit, Laura Tacho asks how to separate the real effects of AI on software organizations from the hype. Tacho shares new industry benchmarks and case studies, then de
30:32Inside OpenAI's Codex Team: Agents as Teammates, Moving Bottlenecks, and What Comes Next
At The Pragmatic Summit, Tibo Sottiaux, Head of Engineering for Codex at OpenAI, and Vijaye Raji, OpenAI's CTO of Applications, described how software development is changing inside the company. The h
1:44:11Andrey Breslav on Designing Kotlin, and Why the Language After It Is Written in English
Andrey Breslav led the design of Kotlin at JetBrains from its first whiteboard sketches in 2010 through its 1.0 release, its adoption as an official Android language, and a team of about a hundred peo