YeSung on Solitude, Small Happiness, and Twenty Years of Self-Discipline

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Overview

In this interview for the Taiwanese channel LIKETAITAI, YeSung of SUPER JUNIOR talks with the host while in Seoul to film an endorsement for Better Biosciences. The conversation covers personality, time alone, sleep, diet, stress, and how YeSung's idea of happiness has changed. The thread running through it is the habits that sustained a 20-year idol career, and what YeSung would tell their younger self on debut day.

11 min read
0:59

Opposite Personalities

The conversation opens on a light note. The host suggests calling YeSung "YeSung hyung," since Korean uses honorifics. YeSung jokingly asks whether they are older than the host, and the host explains being surprised by how young YeSung looks.

The talk turns to MBTI. YeSung confirms being an INFJ, with the "F" (feeling) dimension above 80%. The host says they are the exact opposite, with "T" (thinking) at 100%. YeSung notes that one SUPER JUNIOR member is also 100% "T," and says they sometimes envy people with that trait.

Asked whether such different people can still be friends, YeSung says yes. Shared common ground helps them get along, but YeSung argues that the differences themselves are what let them understand each other better.

1:41

A Night Owl Who Values Time Alone

YeSung describes themself as a night owl. Late at night is their "me time," and it is when most of their thoughts come. What they do then varies: sometimes games, sometimes watching things, sometimes work if there is work to finish. Mostly, they protect that time for themself.

The host observes that many people now find it hard to be alone and asks for advice. YeSung says they never feel uncomfortable alone and actually enjoy it. Part of that, they think, comes from their career: they learned to be comfortable with themself from a young age, and wanting to succeed meant spending a lot of time focusing on themself. But YeSung identifies a different "real trigger." During that time alone, they could feel themself growing, little by little, and that is when solitude became something they truly enjoyed.

2:43

Sleep Problems and the Endorsed Product

Asked whether they slept well before the day's busy schedule, YeSung says sleep is often difficult. One reason they give is that they watch what they eat. The other is a habit whose start they cannot pinpoint: at some point they began to hate going to bed early. They enjoy the late-night solitude so much that an early night feels like a loss.

The host then brings up the sponsor's "Airplane Mode Capsule," a sleep product. YeSung says that before receiving the proposal, they had assumed few people shared their sleep problems and wondered whether anything could help. On getting the product, they thought, "This is it." The host explains that the capsule contains saffron and magnesium, which the host says help the body relax. The host suggests it suits people who are stressed or have high expectations of themselves, and so would suit YeSung.

4:02

Training, Diet, and Starting Early on Intermittent Fasting

The host congratulates YeSung on SUPER JUNIOR's 20 years of popularity and asks how they have kept up their public image for so long, noting that YeSung manages their diet, stays in shape, and takes many supplements.

YeSung says that in their twenties they overtrained and were often injured. They then switched to moderate workouts and a stricter diet, and over time those habits made a real difference. They now eat very little made with flour and have been strict about carbohydrates and flour in general.

YeSung explains this as part of a long-term plan formed young. If they wanted to last in the entertainment industry, the first requirement was skill and the second was slowing down aging as much as possible. So they experimented with many approaches. One example they point to is intermittent fasting, which they say they began in their early twenties, before it became widely popular, and which they have found very helpful.

The host, who also practices intermittent fasting, asks how long YeSung fasts. YeSung says they once ate only one meal a day but found it hard to sustain. They now eat two light meals: one is just a shake, and the other is a small, simple meal.

5:57

Why YeSung Stays Away from Cooking

The host points out that Korean food tends to be heavily seasoned and asks whether cutting sugar and salt means YeSung cooks for themself. YeSung lives with their parents and does not cook, and says they are not interested in cooking anyway. They get hungry often, so if they liked cooking, sticking to their diet would be very hard. They deliberately keep their distance from it, calling it "dangerous" for them. When mukbang videos became a trend, they found it torture.

The host shares a joke at their own expense. After the host posted a video cooking squirrel fish, a commenter wrote that the fish "has died a million times on the internet," meaning the cooking was bad. The host adds that cooking for themself actually kills their appetite, so they cook when they want to lose weight. YeSung says they will try it sometime.

6:38

Handling Stress and Redefining Happiness

Asked how they stay calm after 20 years in a stressful environment, YeSung says they have no special method. They tend to go with the flow, though they stress that they are "not a robot." Usually they just wait, since time lets things settle. When things get really hard, they look for happiness somewhere else.

That leads to what happiness means to them. In their twenties, YeSung believed happiness had to be something big. Over time that view changed, and they even wrote a song about it. They now believe happiness often comes from small things. They have always liked Winnie the Pooh and cite a line they often see associated with it: "Happiness is always around me. Even the smallest happiness is always surrounding you." Since then, they have tried not to let those small moments of happiness slip away.

The host connects this to a book by Korean psychiatrist Han Seong-hee, written as a letter to her forty-year-old daughter. The host summarizes one of its ideas: even if life stays the same, our task is to find happiness in the ordinary and look for small joys. YeSung agrees.

7:36

From a "Gangster Vibe" to Gentler Eyes

The host mentions that people once said YeSung gave off a "gangster vibe," but now say they have mellowed out, and asks whether this reflects a change in mindset since their twenties. YeSung says a lot has changed over the years and feels their eyes have become gentler. They used to look very sharp; not so much anymore.

YeSung adds that they do not have as strong a personality as people imagine. Pointing back to being an "F" type, they say they get hurt easily. In their view, truly strong people do not care about such things, focus on themselves, and do not make their strength apparent. People like YeSung, they say, show everything on their face.

8:48

A Message to the Pre-Debut Self

Asked what one thing they would say to themself on the day before debut, YeSung answers: "Live happier." Back then, they did not really know how to enjoy life.

The host links this to the Han Seong-hee book again. According to the host, the book says that once you learn to let go of what does not matter and focus on what does, your golden era begins, and the author places that real golden era after forty, because by then you stop wasting time on people who don't matter. The host says this ties in with everything YeSung said and adds that everything they went through was not in vain. YeSung agrees.

9:41

Why YeSung Took the Endorsement

The host asks why YeSung trusted Better Biosciences enough to become its ambassador. YeSung explains that they recently had a personal goal: to land a solo advertisement that suited them before it became "too late." Last year they raised this with their company, saying they were open to almost anything as long as the concept wasn't too strange. The Better Biosciences project came up around then, and YeSung immediately said they wanted to do it.

YeSung also expresses gratitude to Taipei. Last year they were named Artist of the Year on KKBOX, an award they say they had not received in a long time, and the endorsement offer followed soon after. The host clarifies that the ad was not given because of the award but because the team genuinely likes YeSung. YeSung laughs that they just wanted to brag a little, and the host promises to put it in the teaser trailer.

On why the brand fits, YeSung says they have long been interested in vitamins and know more about the field than people might expect, and they habitually take various supplements. When the proposal came, they saw that many of the products were similar to what they already take. Their reasoning was that promoting products they already understand would let them explain and introduce them better than promoting something unfamiliar.

11:34

A Free Day, Cafés, and Taipei

If they had no work the next day, YeSung says, the day would revolve around hobbies, which they get deeply into. Lately the routine has been consistent. In good weather with no schedule, they go out and take photos. In bad weather, or if they don't feel like going out, they are happy staying in their room, which is full of things they can enjoy alone.

Since the crew is staying in Seoul a few more days, the host asks YeSung, as a café owner, for dessert recommendations. YeSung says there are far too many good places in Korea, and the host jokes they should start with YeSung's own café.

YeSung then talks about Taipei, where they held concerts two weeks earlier. They like the city's atmosphere, which they describe as having a mature, seasoned charm and a "realness" different from Korea, with many interesting vintage corners. They looked up many cafés online, are already planning where to go next time, and say they really want to return.

13:01

Holding Back on Taipei Food

Asked about favorite Taipei foods, YeSung says they barely ate this time. The team went out after the concert, but YeSung stayed behind for fear of being unable to resist, holding back because of the upcoming ad shoot. They do remember one snack fans gave them: peanut-flavored, long, and packaged in a tube-shaped container. YeSung ate one whenever they got hungry but cannot remember its name. The host identifies it as peanut brittle and promises to bring some next time, along with a single xiao long bao, since YeSung avoids carbs. The host adds that eating it once in a while is fine.

The Name Pun

The interview closes on wordplay. The product is called "Sialic Acid Probiotics," and in Mandarin "YeSung" sounds like the word for probiotics (Yi Sheng). The host notes that people in Taiwan love this kind of pun and calls it a perfect match. YeSung agrees that it feels made for them, and says they will work hard "until the day we renew the contract."